Author Topic: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)! (Read 159203 times)

Byaaakuren · « **Reply #480 on:** March 28, 2011, 09:49:44 PM »

Apparently, I still don't know the size of the fireballs' hitboxes ._. That or I got killed by a hidden yellow bullet.

Paper Conan · « **Reply #481 on:** March 28, 2011, 10:01:39 PM »

Finally, a worthy challenge this week!

I honestly hated both of last week's challenges, so I didn't bother participating. Not only do I find capturing spellcards with Reimu A easy/fun, I've also been practicing with the Scarlet Team in Lunatic since last month!

Prepare yourselves.

Nyyl · « **Reply #482 on:** March 28, 2011, 11:22:06 PM »

Capturing spell cards with the weakest shot type... I see what you did there :V

ark · « **Reply #483 on:** March 29, 2011, 02:13:09 AM »

I am so doing this IN Extra scoring. yesssss

Zengeku · « **Reply #484 on:** March 29, 2011, 08:12:58 AM »

Made an Extra run. Fared pretty poorly. Might make a new one. I'll need to practice Fujiyama Volcano. Its easy once you remember what you to do but its not when you are going in blind.

chirpy13 · « **Reply #485 on:** March 29, 2011, 01:53:15 PM »

Still can't graze boss Wriggle consistently or midboss Wriggle at all. I don't even want to think of the hell I'm gonna have to go through with midboss Keine... I don't think this score run is happening, I may just have to say fuck it and just do a no focus (minus PoC/bullet canceling/Reisen nonspell) run to make the most out of Sakuya...

EDIT: BLARGHASDASKJDSAKL 2 spells failed on stage 3, alt-f4 ragequit

Chaotic Phoenixma · « **Reply #486 on:** March 29, 2011, 03:16:20 PM »

I didn't even try the Wriggle second boss card milk or the midboss Keine spellcard milk or a few others. Screwed up all the other milks though.

Also, need to learn how to do Death Fairy. Also, haven't even gotten to Mokou's first spell yet this week due to dying on the stage or while grazing her nonspell.

Agent of the BSoD · « **Reply #487 on:** March 30, 2011, 03:26:05 AM »

Just tried an EoSD normal run. It was all doing good until I hit stage 5 and 6. Marionette is evil and I don't think I've ever capped it. (at least in normal anyway) I died TWICE to that, using no bombs btw. Then Red Magic. I've managed to cap it before, but this time it made me use a bomb due to panic. I actually ended the run with no lives left, when I had a godly amount before those two stages. Looks like I'll have to practice those again and try for another run.

Also, I have no idea how to cap Marionette or Scarlet Shoot. :ohdear:

Byaaakuren · « **Reply #488 on:** March 30, 2011, 05:53:10 AM »

I just tried EoSD, but panicked way too much against Sakuya :ohdear:
Too many instances where I tried to deliberately deathbomb and died with bombs in stock too many times ;_;

I know I've done it before but I may have forgotten. For Clock Corpse, it's just tapping, no?

Agent of the BSoD · « **Reply #489 on:** March 30, 2011, 06:30:53 AM »

Quote from: Railgun on March 30, 2011, 05:53:10 AM

I know I've done it before but I may have forgotten. For Clock Corpse, it's just tapping, no?

Yes. You just have to be careful to avoid the random pellet bullets, but they aren't too hard to dodge. There are a few knives that are aimed at you, so you can ignore those once you tap out of the way. Then the rest of the knives leave a sort of trail you can follow, only having to tap a small amount to follow it.

MTSranger · « **Reply #490 on:** March 30, 2011, 07:36:45 AM »

Quote from: Agent of the BSoD on March 30, 2011, 03:26:05 AM

Also, I have no idea how to cap Marionette or Scarlet Shoot. :ohdear:

I suck at Marionette too. Stay closer to Sakuya I guess, so that the knives don't change direction so near the bottom.
Scarlet Shoot is basically trying to aim at Remilia and don't wall yourself (the metal fatigue bullets are quite annoying)
The order is: 2 aimed 6-way, 1 aimed burst, 4 aimed 6-way (longer time break in middle), 1 aimed burst, repeated.

Heartbeam · « **Reply #491 on:** March 31, 2011, 01:21:48 PM »

Quote from: Eva Beatrice on March 29, 2011, 04:31:50 AM

how do you bomb for star points with Reimu A?

I wanted to say you don't, but it looks like there's a very small frame to fire the bomb and get something useful out of it. Your efforts would be better spent elsewhere, but if you're swimming in resources on Easy then why not.

Quote from: Eva Beatrice on March 30, 2011, 07:36:45 AM

Scarlet Shoot is basically trying to aim at Remilia and don't wall yourself (the metal fatigue bullets are quite annoying)
The order is: 2 aimed 6-way, 1 aimed burst, 4 aimed 6-way (longer time break in middle), 1 aimed burst, repeated.

Not really worth mentioning, but you can say it repeats after the pair of five-way shots following the first aimed burst. And that second pair will always fire in succession faster. And there's a bit of a pause after the aimed burst.

MTSranger · « **Reply #492 on:** March 31, 2011, 05:40:16 PM »

Quote from: Heartbeam on March 31, 2011, 01:21:48 PM

I wanted to say you don't, but it looks like there's a very small frame to fire the bomb and get something useful out of it. Your efforts would be better spent elsewhere, but if you're swimming in resources on Easy then why not.

I see. Well, I guess I won't try to do that then. My normal runs are awful enough as is.

Quote from: Heartbeam on March 31, 2011, 01:21:48 PM

Not really worth mentioning, but you can say it repeats after the pair of five-way shots following the first aimed burst. And that second pair will always fire in succession faster. And there's a bit of a pause after the aimed burst.

It's 5-way? :V *smacks myself for never noticing*

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Damn, getting 23/23 spell cards is not simple at all. So many attempts failed due to stupid Pachy/Marionette.
I guess time to suicide moar.

Chaotic Phoenixma · « **Reply #493 on:** April 02, 2011, 01:34:14 PM »

So I tried a run of Easy just to put a higher score up.

Fail the scoring trick on Kaguya's 4th Last Spell then failed the 5th one.

Didn't think I had even beaten the top score, so I didn't save a replay. Looks like I actually did beat it, but I don't have the patience to go through the mode again. Plus, failing 2 of Kaguya's last spells on Easy seemed unacceptable to me. 1 would of been fair enough due to the scoring trick.

Polttopallo · « **Reply #494 on:** April 03, 2011, 06:42:57 PM »

Quote from: Chaotic Phoenixma on April 02, 2011, 01:34:14 PM

So I tried a run of Easy just to put a higher score up.

Fail the scoring trick on Kaguya's 4th Last Spell then failed the 5th one.

Didn't think I had even beaten the top score, so I didn't save a replay. Looks like I actually did beat it, but I don't have the patience to go through the mode again. Plus, failing 2 of Kaguya's last spells on Easy seemed unacceptable to me. 1 would of been fair enough due to the scoring trick.

I'm not brave enough to do Kaguya's 4th last spell like that. I've been able to do it right only few times T_T

Also if you are suicidal here is a nice and very risky method for Reimu's evil sealing circle

replay here http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=13023

ark · « **Reply #495 on:** April 04, 2011, 05:07:31 AM »

I wanted to submit some runs for IN Hard and Lunatic (I'm pretty sure I can beat the current top Lunatic score), and a better Extra score, but being busy and/or sick ruined that idea.

bahhhhhh

Chaotic Phoenixma · « **Reply #496 on:** April 04, 2011, 04:46:25 PM »

I really was expecting someone to come in and beat that. And since it was over when I got up today, I wouldn't have been able to beat a higher score.

Oh, and if Zengeku or anyone had beaten my score, I would have went and tried to improve it. But I wouldn't know how that would have went.

ark · « **Reply #497 on:** April 04, 2011, 08:40:23 PM »

Yeah, it seems like people were mostly interested in the special challenge. Poor IN

chirpy13 · « **Reply #498 on:** April 04, 2011, 09:22:21 PM »

I was actually really excited about IN until I saw that team =/.

Also Sapz, I should probably let you know my EoSD Easy run is listed under Extra :ohdear:.

Zengeku · « **Reply #499 on:** April 05, 2011, 08:09:28 AM »

Quote from: Chaotic Phoenixma on April 04, 2011, 04:46:25 PM

Oh, and if Zengeku or anyone had beaten my score, I would have went and tried to improve it. But I wouldn't know how that would have went.

If I had beaten your score I wouldn't have submitted it before 30 minutes before deadline. :V
Nah, obviously not. Wouldn't do anything like that.

I would've liked to make a better score too. My performance on Stage 2 and 3 was bad and Stage 6. Just horrible. A thoroughly bad run with 6 bloody misses. I didn't even apply any scoring tricks to it.

ark · « **Reply #500 on:** April 05, 2011, 10:05:00 AM »

Quote from: chirpy13 on April 04, 2011, 09:22:21 PM

I was actually really excited about IN until I saw that team =/.

I don't know why people don't like Scarlet Team. I'd say they're probably the nicest team in terms of game balance (Reimu makes stages too easy; Magic Team sucks all around, Ghost Team is nice though); not to mention that they have excellent scoring potential.

Zengeku · « **Reply #501 on:** April 05, 2011, 10:19:13 AM »

The Scarlet Team demands more memorization to play well with and doesn't offer much in terms of direct advantage over the Border Team.
They do have a few advantages though. One of them being the Stage 6 opener being easier with the Scarlet Team that requires you to memorize less in comparison to the Border Team.

However, not being able to improvize as much really hurts the team imo. Sakuya can't do much on her own where Reimu tears things apart almost regardless of your positioning while Sakuya really only can hurt popcorn enemies and not that effectively at that. Remilia, while powerful, has a minor issue in that you need to keep track of the boss location and having the familiar alligned with it.

chirpy13 · « **Reply #502 on:** April 05, 2011, 02:55:20 PM »

Quote from: Nereid on April 05, 2011, 10:05:00 AM

I don't know why people don't like Scarlet Team. I'd say they're probably the nicest team in terms of game balance (Reimu makes stages too easy; Magic Team sucks all around, Ghost Team is nice though); not to mention that they have excellent scoring potential.

My problem with them is that I'm bad at graze milking bosses, and they rely entirely too much on that if you want to have any reasonably decent score. Sakuya's spread shot just smashes up familiars and keeps putting her under 80, not to mention she's weak as hell, and time farming on bosses with her is probably worse than a really half-ass Remi performance. I'm not a big fan of Reimu for that either, but she's still a million times better than Sakuya imo, plus Reimu is great on the stages. Magic team can at least be treated as a solo-Marisa, and ghost team has Youmu. Also, I'm not really used to Remi's shot type, but I'd be willing to learn if Sakuya wasn't so horrible >_>. I think the only choices that I'd have been even more against would be solo Sakuya and solo Alice...

Sapz · « **Reply #503 on:** April 05, 2011, 06:49:04 PM »

Just in case you haven't realised yet, I am deliberately choosing the 'fun' shot types. :V I thought Scarlet Team was more popular than that though, huh. I always thought they were the most fun team to use.

Zengeku · « **Reply #504 on:** April 05, 2011, 07:16:13 PM »

You and Naut are both most vile creatures. But that's what I like about ya'.

ark · « **Reply #505 on:** April 05, 2011, 11:02:42 PM »

Scarlet Team is so fun, you guys are all just haters

Paper Conan · « **Reply #506 on:** April 05, 2011, 11:27:56 PM »

Completely forgot to upload my replays :colonveeplusalpha:

Quote from: Nereid on April 05, 2011, 11:02:42 PM

Scarlet Team is so fun, you guys are all just haters

This.

Dr.Strafe · « **Reply #507 on:** April 06, 2011, 12:39:30 AM »

Quote from: Sapz on April 05, 2011, 06:49:04 PM

Just in case you haven't realised yet, I am deliberately choosing the 'fun' shot types. :V

Why do I think there will be a UFO Marisa B challenge looming over the horizon?

Scarlet team wasn't bad. Sakuya solo would have been much worse. I did like the slowing down of the falling items though.

The Greatest Dog · « **Reply #508 on:** April 06, 2011, 01:18:33 AM »

It's like MarisaC vs ReimuB in MoF~

When using Scarlet Team... If the boss doesn't move, you can plant your bats right there for about 50% of your total damage output no matter where you are on screen. Notably most of Kaguya's cards or some of Reimu's, maybe. If you unfocus, your bats will move with you but it's the same way with Border that you need to get a lock on again for Ran when you refocus. In both scenarios you need to get under the boss again if you need to unfocus.
If the boss moves and if you stay in one area, the boss will always move towards you, so the boss will always be in the general area. Yukari might win over Remilia in this instance depending on the movements.
If you move, the bats will continue to stay under the boss until the boss moves towards you, in which case you can just tap focus to move them back right underneath.

Of course, you have to deal with Sakuya's terribad shot, but it's mainly for those reasons that MarisaC will win against ReimuB (at least against VoWG lololol) no matter how much power you have.

Zengeku · « **Reply #509 on:** April 06, 2011, 06:57:11 AM »

Quote from: Nereid on April 05, 2011, 11:02:42 PM

Scarlet Team is so fun, you guys are all just haters

Yes. You should try hating too. Its fun. :V

Seriously though, why choose an inferior shottype?