Touhou is harder :V Derp thread III

[Kaze_Senshi]

Trying EoSD hard for fun.
Midboss Meiling, I die stupidly (doesn't really matter).
Then I go to the PoC to get the extra life.
With 120 power.
...
Oh well, no extra life then.

Also, I broke my previous record, dying with 7 bombs in stock in IN.

So much derp, it becomes funny.

I did something like this, in PCB extra, I defeated Chen and when going to get the extra life someone killed and I didn't get the extra life  :V

[Tsym]

I figured out why SA Lunatic stage 1 is so hard for me. The communication gauge.

Basically when I stopped trying to collect the items by streaming everything, I stopped dying as much in the stage portion of Stage 1.

Score? Who needs score when you can get out of stage 1 with 3 freaking lives? It's amazing. That's what it is.

[Massaca]

> Trying to no focus timeout Scarlet Destiny (Spell 220) at 90 fps with Youmu & Yuyu in IN.
> Notices timer at <60 seconds left (from 99).
> Dies at 54 from over tapping.

It's getting really annoying cause it's just a very simple "tap left, tap right, tap right, tap left, repeat" deal but I can't seem to not over or under tap. Often right at the beginning or around the 62 mark

[BT]

>Let's pacify Byakuren!

I'm a fucking idiot.

[Chuckolator]

>Let's perfect Kanako!

I'm a fucking idiot.

fixed

Derped on the ending deathfairy, then perfected Kanako up to Source of Rains. State of mind was something like "please don't let me capture this and VoWG", I'm kind of happy I failed both. Kind of.

[BT]

fixed

Derped on the ending deathfairy, then perfected Kanako up to Source of Rains. State of mind was something like "please don't let me capture this and VoWG", I'm kind of happy I failed both. Kind of.

The best way to try and perfect her is to not try and perfect her. Let me help you. From now on, you're practicing Stage 6 for VoWG. Kanako just happens to be there!

[ふねん1]

For the second time that I can remember, UFO Stage 5 perfect run ruined... by accidentally summoning a large UFO.

Can someone make a patch that removes these things from the game altogether, please?

I figured out why SA Lunatic stage 1 is so hard for me. The communication gauge.

Basically when I stopped trying to collect the items by streaming everything, I stopped dying as much in the stage portion of Stage 1.

Score? Who needs score when you can get out of stage 1 with 3 freaking lives? It's amazing. That's what it is.

But most of the stuff in Stage 1 in aimed, so even if you're technically not grazing a lot of it, streaming is still the ideal way to survive. If you're dying while trying to stream, then you're doing something wrong. Do you have a replay?

[BT]

You perfected UFO Stage 5? Or were you going to but the UFO summon made you miss? If it's the former then I would make it count personally. :/

[ふねん1]

Neither. These are shots at a perfect run - one mistake of any kind, including summoning a UFO, equals instant restart, which is what I did that time. Unless I feel like I really need to practice some aspect of an attack later in the stage, there's no point in continuing if you ask me.

[PMW]

>EoSD stage 2
>perfect everything except perfect freeze

derp

[LunarWingCloud]

Cirno froze your perfect run its tracks... literally.  :V

[Kaze_Senshi]

>EoSD stage 2
>perfect everything except perfect freeze

derp

I failed at perfect freeze too these days and send the replay to the touhou fail compilation
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22597

[Karisa]

I ran into a bullet while circling around on Miko's 4th card in a TD Hard survival run (survival meaning aiming to finish with as many resources as I could). I had 7 lives and 9 bombs at the time; if I hadn't died there, it would have been a max resources clear, or at least a no-death run, depending on whether I survived Miko's 6th card long enough to finish it off with one trance. (It's impossible to reach the 20 extend, correct?)

On the plus side, I somehow managed to score 1.1 billion in that run, meaning I've now reached 1 billion in every Touhou game it's possible in (7, 8, 10-13, as far as I know).

[チソウ タイゼン]

I think the 25-extend is the impossible one, actually?

[Karisa]

per life: 8, 10, 12, 15, 18, 20, (22, 25?)
total: 8, 18, 30, 45, 63, 83, (105, 130?)

If I counted correctly, there are 48 pink spirits in the game (by stage: 4, 8, 8, 8, 10, 10) on Hard/Lunatic. Reaching 63 life parts requires trancing at least 15 of them, or more if you miss any spirits. Reaching 83 would require trancing at least 35 of them, and reaching anything above 96 would be impossible even if you could theoretically be in trance for every spirit.

The highest I've either reached personally or seen in a replay is around 6/20 or 7/20 towards the 8th life (in other words, 69-70 life parts collected). Although it's possible that a few more could be collected (say, by planned bombs on certain boss phases to recharge your trance more quickly), I doubt it's possible to reach 20/20.

[crystalgreatsword]

I have recently been playing through Hard mode EoSD to prepare for my next Normal 1cc attempt.

Lo and behold I miraculously make it to Scarlet Meister.
That card is scary! O.o

Needless to say, I lost my last life to that card xD

[Chuckolator]

On a so far perfect run, decided to shoot Kanako instead of stream on Source of Rains because I thought I could finish it in time.

I couldn't.

Didn't even attempt VoWG, just quit right there because I didn't want to know if I could have captured it and made that my perfect run if I hadn't been so stupid. <_<

[MTSranger]

per life: 8, 10, 12, 15, 18, 20, (22, 25?)
total: 8, 18, 30, 45, 63, 83, (105, 130?)

If I counted correctly, there are 48 pink spirits in the game (by stage: 4, 8, 8, 8, 10, 10) on Hard/Lunatic. Reaching 63 life parts requires trancing at least 15 of them, or more if you miss any spirits. Reaching 83 would require trancing at least 35 of them, and reaching anything above 96 would be impossible even if you could theoretically be in trance for every spirit.

The highest I've either reached personally or seen in a replay is around 6/20 or 7/20 towards the 8th life (in other words, 69-70 life parts collected). Although it's possible that a few more could be collected (say, by planned bombs on certain boss phases to recharge your trance more quickly), I doubt it's possible to reach 20/20.

I remembered a while ago back when the game first came out that someone posted images of ending with 8 lives and ?/22, and ending with no lives and ?/25.
Are you sure there are only 48? Even I could reach 7 lives and I'm terrible when it comes to trancing.

[Karisa]

I remembered a while ago back when the game first came out that someone posted images of ending with 8 lives and ?/22, and ending with no lives and ?/25.
Are you sure there are only 48? Even I could reach 7 lives and I'm terrible when it comes to trancing.

Here's my list. Did I miss anything? (Also if you happen to know where those images are, could you link them?)

stage 1:
1 from midboss
2 from Yuyuko's first 2 cards
1 from Yuyuko's 3rd card (Hard/Lunatic only)

stage 2:
2 before midboss
2 from Kyouko midboss card
2 before Kyouko (if you defeat the 6 green spirit enemies fast enough)
2 from Kyouko's first 2 boss cards

stage 3:
2 before Kogasa
2 from Kogasa's card (her non-card drops spirits but there's no life spirit)
2 from enemies that appear if you defeat Kogasa fast enough
2 from Yoshika's first 2 cards

stage 4:
2 before midboss
2 from Seiga's midboss card
2 from large fairies near end of stage (more fairies appear if you defeat them fast enough, but they only have green spirits)
2 from Seiga's first 2 boss cards

stage 5:
2 from set of 6 enemies near the start
2 from set of 6 enemies before Tojiko
2 from Tojiko
1 from set of 6 enemies near end of stage (the 7 enemies after that only drop 6 green spirits)
3 from Futo's first 3 cards

stage 6:
4 right before Miko (make sure not to defeat any of the large fairies without defeating the spirit enemy following it first)
6 from Miko's first 6 cards

[Seppo Hovi]

Image credit not by me. Tool-assisted trance was used, replays are on the uploader.

[K.B.]

Can someone make a patch that removes these things from the game altogether, please?

Fervently seconding this.


When it comes to ufos, I have to restrain myself to be courteous and heed the lecture of Thumper's dad.

Except when Naut disparages EoSD.  Then the gloves come off.

[Karisa]

Image credit not by me. Tool-assisted trance was used, replays are on the uploader.

That doesn't answer my question about whether the 20 extend is possible without any cheats... though it does raise a new question of how I managed to miss at least 11 life spirits in my list.

What do I need to play back that replay?

[FKillThisAccount]

Here's my list. Did I miss anything? (Also if you happen to know where those images are, could you link them?)

stage 1:
1 from midboss
2 from Yuyuko's first 2 cards
1 from Yuyuko's 3rd card (Hard/Lunatic only)

stage 2:
2 before midboss
2 from Kyouko midboss card
2 before Kyouko (if you defeat the 6 green spirit enemies fast enough)
2 from Kyouko's first 2 boss cards

stage 3:
2 before Kogasa
2 from Kogasa's card (her non-card drops spirits but there's no life spirit)
2 from enemies that appear if you defeat Kogasa fast enough
2 from Yoshika's first 2 cards

stage 4:
2 before midboss
2 from Seiga's midboss card
2 from large fairies near end of stage (more fairies appear if you defeat them fast enough, but they only have green spirits)
2 from Seiga's first 2 boss cards

stage 5:
2 from set of 6 enemies near the start
2 from set of 6 enemies before Tojiko
2 from Tojiko
1 from set of 6 enemies near end of stage (the 7 enemies after that only drop 6 green spirits)
3 from Futo's first 3 cards

stage 6:
4 right before Miko (make sure not to defeat any of the large fairies without defeating the spirit enemy following it first)
6 from Miko's first 6 cards

Thanks for posting these! Now I can time my trances correctly to the lives.

On-topic I keep ruining my chances of a normal 1cc on 10D (even easier than IN) just because of Miko and her claustrophobic/clippy/fast/herding-rich spell card collection, where I derp everything except Ikaruga-dera and Guse Kannon.

[LunarWingCloud]

I remember when I used to struggle with TD to 1cc it on Normal. Used to be so rough. Only issues I typically have now are Yoshika (because healing is unfair), Seiga (because wavy lasers ruin my perception so bad) and Miko (because bullet mass rape).

However I typically 1cc it no problem. Trance is your friend.

TOO BAD I CAN'T CLEAR MAMIZOU BECAUSE OF HER 6TH AND 7TH NONCARDS AND WILD DESERTED ISLAND RUINING ME.

[nintendonut888]

Random Eirin attempt: ND1B, last spell captured. If you were to ask me if I were angry at messing up Apollo 13 at such a critical time, I'd say...not really. But it is regrettable; I'd love to totally humiliate Eirin one day by topping off a perfect with a Hourai Elixir capture. Maybe someday I'll get that chance.

[Chuckolator]

Quick, make a joke about this board's name while you still can!

Seriously though, it's only a matter of time now. Good luck <_<

[redlakitu]

Died while trying to finally capture Hourai Elixir (Normal) with 0 seconds left on the counter... because I suddenly decided that my face and the incoming bullet really should meet each other. At least I immediately realized that it was my fault and only mumbled something to the effect  of "I knew it" instead of the usual "AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGH".

[Reiko]

UFO normal, reaching stage 6 after a run full of derps.
I dodge all the bullet spam from the disco ball before Byakuren for the first time ever.
"Aw yeah, I'm so going to get this 1cc"
I rush to the PoC like a madman.
Straight into the ball.
This thing has a hitbox. :colonveeplusalpha:

[Elysia]

So you know how in MoF stage 3, Nitori shows up and then immediately retreats? I just found out that she has a hitbox when this happens.

The really hilarious thing was that I had been making utterly ridiculous dodging on the segment before that, feeling invincible, and then NITORI KICK.

[nintendonut888]

Quick, make a joke about this board's name while you still can!

Seriously though, it's only a matter of time now. Good luck <_<

No thanks. I admit there's some temptation, but I really don't feel like going through that hell ever again. So long as Apollo 13 remains as impenetrable, unfun, random, and BS as it is, I will never get serious about a perfect + last spell capture.