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Sungho · « **Reply #570 on:** May 01, 2011, 02:08:52 AM »

Do we use the Practice Mode for the Stage challenges?

ark · « **Reply #571 on:** May 01, 2011, 03:35:41 AM »

Yes.

(I can't imagine how else you would do it.)

Byaaakuren · « **Reply #572 on:** May 01, 2011, 03:39:02 AM »

Quote from: Nereid on May 01, 2011, 03:35:41 AM

Yes.

(I can't imagine how else you would do it.)

You can do a real run, and take the difference between the end of the stage and the beginning of the stage :getdown:

Dr.Strafe · « **Reply #573 on:** May 01, 2011, 04:05:54 AM »

Using stage practice is easier, and it ensures an even base point value.

ark · « **Reply #574 on:** May 01, 2011, 11:56:28 AM »

Yeah, easiness aside, the initial conditions a full run would be very different, since you would have more graze and fewer lives, which would make it unfair (and against the point of this challenge).

Agent of the BSoD · « **Reply #575 on:** May 01, 2011, 07:31:35 PM »

And also, rank. The rank in stage practice will start the same, as in a real run, it'll be changed depending on how well you did earlier. Everyone has an even match-up this way.

ふねん1 · « **Reply #576 on:** May 01, 2011, 07:57:41 PM »

Quote from: Agent of the BSoD on May 01, 2011, 07:31:35 PM

And also, rank. The rank in stage practice will start the same, as in a real run, it'll be changed depending on how well you did earlier. Everyone has an even match-up this way.

Rank doesn't exist past EoSD, save for Lyrica's opener. Nereid already mentioned the things that would change scores around.

Agent of the BSoD · « **Reply #577 on:** May 01, 2011, 08:28:34 PM »

Quote from: ふねん1 on May 01, 2011, 07:57:41 PM

Rank doesn't exist past EoSD, save for Lyrica's opener. Nereid already mentioned the things that would change scores around.

Oh really? I didn't know that. Hmm, strange.

ark · « **Reply #578 on:** May 02, 2011, 08:35:47 PM »

doop never mind

Dr.Strafe · « **Reply #579 on:** May 02, 2011, 09:00:34 PM »

Shit. I forgot to submit a score this week.

ふねん1 · « **Reply #580 on:** May 02, 2011, 10:19:34 PM »

Figures, the day after the tournament closes I suddenly become loads more consistent at scoring the first two stages of TD. I could have used some of that to help study Stage 3 faster. Oh well, it's progress all the same. And surprisingly, I'm still finding ways to improve my Lunatic Reimu scores. I think 280 million might be possible. Too bad we probably won't see TD featured here until the full release, except maybe some survival challenge.

Sapz · « **Reply #581 on:** May 02, 2011, 10:40:16 PM »

All updated. Nice stuff, people.

Funen: Well, it's a while off yet. You never know. :V

chirpy13 · « **Reply #582 on:** May 03, 2011, 01:20:27 AM »

I think that's the last round I'll participate in for a while. As much as I like these, I'm just becoming more and more anal about my little mistakes and... Well, It's starting to upset me to the point where I'm not really having fun anymore. So for now I shall try to take on a Donut perspective, take it easy, and play for fun rather than score.

shadowbringer · « **Reply #583 on:** May 03, 2011, 01:44:33 AM »

I spent some days (not whole days) trying to enable stage 4 practice myself, having little practice with SA and trying to ignore scoring, then played DotS and some rounds of Ten Desires

Generally speaking, there are scoring systems which I like, and those which I don't (those which aren't inflexible or highly punitive or enforce/greatly reward memorization). Unfortunately, grazing still remains unfun for me

(or games which are clip-happy, or seem like you're supposed to know the player/bullet hitboxes)

edit:

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those which aren't inflexible

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those which aren't inflexible

:V :]

ARF · « **Reply #584 on:** May 04, 2011, 12:11:49 PM »

I'd like to see a UFO stage 6 max graze special challenge. So many awesome graze spots and no one ever uses them.

Vanhaomena · « **Reply #585 on:** May 09, 2011, 12:31:57 AM »

Is this still alive? I'm angry at myself for not finding this earlier, I love competition, especially in the most pointless subjects. Even more so if I lose. Some sort of a challenge which brings out an overlooked part of some game, just like the mentioned UFO graze challenge or something to that tone would be great.

Naut · « **Reply #586 on:** May 09, 2011, 01:05:44 AM »

It's active every two weeks, a new challenge will start tomorrow.

Drake · « **Reply #587 on:** May 09, 2011, 03:19:02 AM »

Quote from: 633IDK on May 04, 2011, 12:11:49 PM

I'd like to see a UFO stage 6 max graze special challenge. So many awesome graze spots and no one ever uses them.

Well when scoring, you have the opening which you don't need to do anything special for, then crows for which you concentrate on killing all of them, then stream until Orin. Blazing Wheel doesn't give any special graze but you bomb it anyways to get as many extra points out of the next wave which yields no graze, then more crows, then BoWaP enemies which I guess you graze. Then Utsuho isn't worth grazing over capturing and bombing her noncards just whittles your resources for the next card and whatever. So you don't ever really graze any extra on that stage.

Byaaakuren · « **Reply #588 on:** May 09, 2011, 03:23:16 AM »

Quote from: Drake on May 09, 2011, 03:19:02 AM

Well when scoring, you have the opening which you don't need to do anything special for, then crows for which you concentrate on killing all of them, then stream until Orin. Blazing Wheel doesn't give any special graze but you bomb it anyways to get as many extra points out of the next wave which yields no graze, then more crows, then BoWaP enemies which I guess you graze. Then Utsuho isn't worth grazing over capturing and bombing her noncards just whittles your resources for the next card and whatever. So you don't ever really graze any extra on that stage.

I didn't know Orin's in UFO.

I'd like to see a 90 FPS challenge, but that's just me

Drake · « **Reply #589 on:** May 09, 2011, 03:30:32 AM »

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ufo

imma herpa derp

LHCling · « **Reply #590 on:** May 09, 2011, 04:51:49 AM »

Quote from: Drake on May 09, 2011, 03:19:02 AM

Well when scoring, you have the opening which you don't need to do anything special for, then ~~crows~~ orbs for which you concentrate on killing all of them, then stream until ~~Orin~~ there are enough fairies for you to bomb for delicious point items. ~~Blazing Wheel~~ Nue's second-last wave doesn't give any special graze ~~but~~ so you bomb it ~~anyways~~ to get as many extra points out of the next wave which yields no something more valuable than graze even at this point in the game, then more ~~crows~~ point items, then ~~BoWaP enemies~~ Byakuren's first non-spell which I guess you graze. Then ~~Utsuho~~ Byakuren isn't worth grazing over capturing and bombing her noncards just whittles your resources for the next card and whatever. Also you don't really have resources to spare. So you don't ever really graze any extra on that stage.

doop

Sapz · « **Reply #591 on:** May 09, 2011, 12:51:49 PM »

Week 8's up. Hope you guys like Marisa. :V

ark · « **Reply #592 on:** May 10, 2011, 04:37:35 AM »

For everyone's convenience:

Imperishable Night score.dat with stage 4A unlocked for Magic Team on all difficulties.

Spell practice is available too.

Zengeku · « **Reply #593 on:** May 10, 2011, 06:59:47 AM »

Generally hate using Marisa but MarisaC isn't that bad at least. I think I'll play some MoF this week. Not so sure about IN. Reimu is a pretty boring boss imo. (As in, she can't do anything. That is of course until her last spell comes along).

EDIT: Why can't I even handle Stage bloody 1? Its suppose to be easy shit... feels as if the familiar doesn't have any range. And she pretty much forces you to be unfocused during the stages if I want to do damage. She is great for bosses though. (even if the benefit depends on luck)

EDIT 2: It doesn't have range. Follett flashbacks. I thought she was a clone of Remilia. Guess not. I'll go with special challenge instead then. I'm not gonna be able to pull a good score with MarisaC anyways without memorizing a whole new pattern for the entire game.

NEETori · « **Reply #594 on:** May 10, 2011, 11:37:57 PM »

I enjoy derping Stage 4A in the special challenge. I somehow always screw up grazing Duplex Barrier by dodging into the wave in front of me. And Alice's terrible bomb is terrible. At least Marisa hits like a truck and Alice is good for killing the fairies with tons of slaves. Oh Alice, why does ZUN hate you?

Paper Conan · « **Reply #595 on:** May 11, 2011, 12:31:34 AM »

I am enjoying dying so many times thanks to fat Marisa in both IN and MoF.
Oh, btw, Marisa C is hell to use in MoF...

y u do dis to me? :qq:

ふねん1 · « **Reply #596 on:** May 11, 2011, 05:54:09 PM »

MoF would be the only thing I do this week, since I can't be bothered to play much of IN at any one time. Then again, I'm not sure how much I want to use MarisaC right now. She's not that hard of a shottype to use, judging from what little play I've done, but still. And it becomes even more demoralizing when, just before the credits, the game freezes so hard that I have to manually shut down my laptop - yes, not even restarting would get past it. Obviously I don't expect this to happen again, but this feeling of utter hatred towards faulty programming needs to wear off first.

The Greatest Dog · « **Reply #597 on:** May 13, 2011, 01:12:32 AM »

Marisa is not fat.

I'mma time out that card with her just to show y'all...

Anyways, I'm intrigued with this challenge. MarisaC~
yummy.

ふねん1 · « **Reply #598 on:** May 13, 2011, 02:55:38 AM »

Not sure why you needed to reply to that in here as well. I brought it up in the rage thread only.

The Greatest Dog · « **Reply #599 on:** May 13, 2011, 04:08:59 AM »

Wait, I could have sworn I saw complaints about it again in here. Either that, or just disliking MarisaC.

Rereads previous posts

:V
Either way, I'm really intrigued because I'd be able to use the best shot in MoF~