Author Topic: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)! (Read 159135 times)

Aliquantic · « **Reply #30 on:** January 27, 2011, 05:03:03 PM »

Quote from: Spaz on January 27, 2011, 04:17:30 AM

This is true, but I think all difficulties are needed to accomodate all the different levels of players. It's perfectly fine to just submit for one difficulty than you find fun or comfortable if you want, but many might want to try a few, so I think this works well enough.

I didn't mean to limit the difficulties, but rather to have a single challenge a week (or possibly two different challenges over a two-week period?) if participation is fledging or there's a lot of burnout after a few weeks when the initial fighting spirit starts to dwindle

Garlyle · « **Reply #31 on:** January 27, 2011, 06:07:10 PM »

Oh man I didn't even realise interest in this was getting revitalized.

I am all over this.

Ghaleon · « **Reply #32 on:** January 27, 2011, 08:31:05 PM »

Quote from: Aliquantic on January 27, 2011, 05:03:03 PM

I didn't mean to limit the difficulties, but rather to have a single challenge a week (or possibly two different challenges over a two-week period?) if participation is fledging or there's a lot of burnout after a few weeks when the initial fighting spirit starts to dwindle

Currently there is no fighting spirit though. Just "aww but I wont do good probably *hides*".

UR ALL WUSSES!!!11oneeleven
(lets ignore the fact I feel the same way lol).

Sapz · « **Reply #33 on:** January 27, 2011, 08:35:15 PM »

Ghaleon knows what's up, competitive spirit is excellent.

Bring it.

Dr.Strafe · « **Reply #34 on:** January 27, 2011, 11:51:40 PM »

Just how difficult are these challenges going to be? I'm hoping that we don't get something like "SA Lunatic no-focus pacifist run with Reimu/Aya at 90 FPS" for the first week. (it would be cool to see the GOD-tier players here accomplish that one, though)
Would we be uploading replays to gensokyo.org like usual?

Ghaleon · « **Reply #35 on:** January 27, 2011, 11:55:37 PM »

Quote from: Dr.Strafe on January 27, 2011, 11:51:40 PM

Just how difficult are these challenges going to be? I'm hoping that we don't get something like "SA Lunatic no-focus pacifist run with Reimu/Aya at 90 FPS" for the first week.

Well obviously we wont bore everyone with such a stupid lame and easy challenge. We'd at LEAST add left hand only+blindfold+must listen to exterior music while Touhou's sound is off.

Seriously though I got the impression that we'd be free to try any difficulty each week while the stage/limitations/challenge/game/whatever was fixed.
In any case, no matter how hard or easy it is, it'll be that hard and easy for everyone so it shouldn't really matter too much. I remember during the STG tournament thingi eI couldn't even make it past stage 4 in a game but it was still cool.

Chaotic Phoenixma · « **Reply #36 on:** January 28, 2011, 12:00:56 AM »

Didn't LR do Pacifist No Focus SA Lunatic as one of the challenges?

Did anyone even get past stage 1?

touhoumaniac · « **Reply #37 on:** January 28, 2011, 12:25:49 AM »

*joins*

J.O.B · « **Reply #38 on:** January 28, 2011, 12:59:15 AM »

I'll be up for some, but not all.

Naut · « **Reply #39 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:14:41 AM »

Quote from: Phoenixma on January 28, 2011, 12:00:56 AM

Didn't LR do Pacifist No Focus SA Lunatic as one of the challenges?

Did anyone even get past stage 1?

Yup

Quote from: Dr.Strafe on January 27, 2011, 11:51:40 PM

something like "SA Lunatic no-focus pacifist run with Reimu/Aya at 90 FPS" for the first week.

Ah, we can only wish ;_;

Garlyle · « **Reply #40 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:50:41 AM »

I'm definitely cool for doing things the way we did it before - I believe there was a Game-Character regular scoring competition, and a Game-Character competition where you either had to play under some restriction [pacifist, no bombs, etc] or with something other than scoring as your objective (final lives count, graze count, cherry value, etc.)

And I will _not kick everyone' ass >8D

CrimsonDX · « **Reply #41 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:56:39 AM »

Normally I would NEVER attempt anything involving the words "no-bomb" "no-death" anything involving going over 60fps or any other random challenges like that (I don't find challenges like that to be fun in ANY kind of game) but for something like this id probably be willing to give it a try.

Agent of the BSoD · « **Reply #42 on:** January 28, 2011, 02:08:10 AM »

Quote from: CrimsonDX on January 28, 2011, 01:56:39 AM

Normally I would NEVER attempt anything involving the words "no-bomb" "no-death" anything involving going over 60fps or any other random challenges like that (I don't find challenges like that to be fun in ANY kind of game) but for something like this id probably be willing to give it a try.

No death may be hard for me, depending on game/stage. No bomb would probably be easier, again depending on game/stage.

I need to go grind at Touhou for a while now.

Btw, does this tournament just use the danmaku touhou games, or does it also include the fighters? I doubt it does but I'll ask anyway.

Agent of the BSoD · « **Reply #43 on:** January 28, 2011, 02:18:13 AM »

Quote from: Dr.Strafe on January 27, 2011, 11:51:40 PM

Just how difficult are these challenges going to be? I'm hoping that we don't get something like "SA Lunatic no-focus pacifist run with Reimu/Aya at 90 FPS"

Quote from: Ghaleon on January 27, 2011, 11:55:37 PM

Well obviously we wont bore everyone with such a stupid lame and easy challenge. We'd at LEAST add left hand only+blindfold+must listen to exterior music while Touhou's sound is off.

~~You forgot to mention that they should be playing as Marisa instead.~~ :V
Oh wait, nevermind that. I wasn't paying attention.

chirpy13 · « **Reply #44 on:** January 28, 2011, 02:25:23 AM »

Quote from: Agent of the BSoD on January 28, 2011, 02:08:10 AM

Btw, does this tournament just use the danmaku touhou games, or does it also include the fighters? I doubt it does but I'll ask anyway.

I would be down for something IaMP related, but I can't really think of anything you could do for that other than a netplay tourney, but those could be kind of hard to arrange and they already occur every so often anyway (not necessarily around here).

Quote from: Dr.Strafe on January 27, 2011, 11:51:40 PM

Just how difficult are these challenges going to be? I'm hoping that we don't get something like "SA Lunatic no-focus pacifist run with Reimu/Aya at 90 FPS" for the first week. (it would be cool to see the GOD-tier players here accomplish that one, though)
Would we be uploading replays to gensokyo.org like usual?

Sounds fun, I'll be back in a bit with the results... I'll only do it on easy/normal though, I can't even clear hard normally, let alone lunatic with no focus pacifist Ayayayayaya. I have a feeling I won't do too good on normal either XD.

jaxter0987 · « **Reply #45 on:** January 28, 2011, 02:54:23 AM »

Might try a few, but seriously Imma have to disappoint you Ghaleon with my attitude :

"HUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRR I IS GOING TO BE SLAUGHTERED ARRRRRGGGGGHHH!!!"

No but seriously...anyone that watched that one run I posted in the touhou failures knows...

:ohdear:

ebarrett · « **Reply #46 on:** January 28, 2011, 03:15:53 AM »

Quote from: jaxter0987 on January 28, 2011, 02:54:23 AM

failures

Quote from: some Nobel Prize winner and shmup theorist

fail better

chirpy13 · « **Reply #47 on:** January 28, 2011, 03:27:21 AM »

Quote from: chirpy13 on January 28, 2011, 02:25:23 AM

I would be down for something IaMP related, but I can't really think of anything you could do for that other than a netplay tourney, but those could be kind of hard to arrange and they already occur every so often anyway (not necessarily around here).
Sounds fun, I'll be back in a bit with the results... I'll only do it on easy/normal though, I can't even clear hard normally, let alone lunatic with no focus pacifist Ayayayayaya. I have a feeling I won't do too good on normal either XD.

Stage 4 practice, normal difficulty

Fairy Class - A difficulty level that will put you to sleep. Keep practicing so people don't make fun of you.

Zengeku · « **Reply #48 on:** January 28, 2011, 08:11:10 AM »

I will destroy everyone with fierce fierpower!!!

Garlyle · « **Reply #49 on:** January 28, 2011, 08:54:13 AM »

The good news is that in general even if you can't complete a challenge on a given difficulty, you can still make an attempt at it - and post your results, even if you only get half a stage in. It's not as embarassing as you'd expect.

Zengeku · « **Reply #50 on:** January 28, 2011, 11:34:04 AM »

It shouldn't really be considered a source of embarassment for anyone. Attempting something and failing at it is a learning experience as well.

Drake · « **Reply #51 on:** January 28, 2011, 02:39:52 PM »

why is everyone such wusses

CrimsonDX · « **Reply #52 on:** January 28, 2011, 07:53:32 PM »

Quote from: Drake on January 28, 2011, 02:39:52 PM

why is everyone such wusses

Well forgive me for not being an elite who can NBND Lunatic at 90FPS with my hands tied behind my backs. there are some of us who still struggle to even COMPLETE normal mode (I have yet to beat a touhou game on normal)

Drake · « **Reply #53 on:** January 28, 2011, 08:01:54 PM »

You are not a wuss for failing.

You are a wuss for being afraid to fail.

CrimsonDX · « **Reply #54 on:** January 28, 2011, 09:29:31 PM »

Quote from: Drake on January 28, 2011, 08:01:54 PM

You are not a wuss for failing.

You are a wuss for being afraid to fail.

I know how to sidestep folly without backing into fear. I find these kinds of challenges to be neither fun nor fulfilling. I play my games to have fun, if I don't enjoy it then I don't do it, and purposefully handicapping myself for some false sense of challenge is not what I consider fun.

Ghaleon · « **Reply #55 on:** January 28, 2011, 09:39:03 PM »

I really doubt we're going to do super insane obscure challenges like that, but even if we do I think you miss the point. The point isn't to challenge ourself to a difficult goal to strive towards (at least not for something like this). But rather so that we can all upload mistakes for everyone elses amusement. I mean take a look at Drake's video (lol what is he blind?! what a dumb ____!" (smack talking makes it more fun)
http://www.youtube.com/user/Vulcapyro#p/u/29/7baYJ-hK938

Anyway this video is a great example of something we can all laugh at and pretend that we don't do too, but we all know we do >=)

Skip to the end if you don't know w hat the point is.

Anyway don't be down if you can't get even that far or whatever. I'm sure there are many who can't >=)

jaxter0987 · « **Reply #56 on:** January 28, 2011, 09:52:38 PM »

Quote from: CrimsonDX on January 28, 2011, 07:53:32 PM

Well forgive me for not being an elite who can NBND Lunatic at 90FPS with my hands tied behind my backs. there are some of us who still struggle to even COMPLETE normal mode (I have yet to beat a touhou game on normal)

Yes definitely me except I can beat PoFV on hard and SWR on hard but I'm guessing you're referring to curtain shooters.

Sapz · « **Reply #57 on:** January 28, 2011, 10:46:34 PM »

CrimsonDX: You are taking this far too seriously. Chill out, give it a try, and if it goes badly, no great loss, right? Clearing something crazy like a NDNB challenge is not what's expected; it's the extreme exception rather than the rule, but that's not even the point - it's just something for fun, and to help your playing improve, and you'll still be able to compete with everyone else (aside from which you can play on any difficulty you choose). There is no need to get indignant or worried about being asked to attempt something that could result in a game over. Attempting at all is far, far better (and more enjoyable!) than not giving it a try for fear of failure. :P

Quote from: Dr.Strafe on January 27, 2011, 11:51:40 PM

Just how difficult are these challenges going to be? I'm hoping that we don't get something like "SA Lunatic no-focus pacifist run with Reimu/Aya at 90 FPS" for the first week. (it would be cool to see the GOD-tier players here accomplish that one, though)
Would we be uploading replays to gensokyo.org like usual?

The special challenge part of each week could vary quite a lot in difficulty; some might be 'see how far you can get without dying/bombing', or 'how much graze can you get', or 'how far can you get without focus', or 'how high a score can you get in this stage in stage practice'. They'll all be available on every difficulty, and clearing isn't a requirement, of course, so they're all attemptable regardless of difficulty. :V And yes, gensokyo.org will be fine.

Quote from: Agent of the BSoD on January 28, 2011, 02:08:10 AM

Btw, does this tournament just use the danmaku touhou games, or does it also include the fighters? I doubt it does but I'll ask anyway.

Just the danmaku games, I'm afraid.

CrimsonDX · « **Reply #58 on:** January 28, 2011, 11:42:44 PM »

I was neither worried nor indi...well maybe a little indignant but that is irrelevant. I already said I would give it a shot anyways.

MTSranger · « **Reply #59 on:** January 29, 2011, 01:34:19 AM »

do want.
we should definitely do this.

Author Topic: Periodic Touhou Tournament (Discussion Thread)! (Read 159135 times)

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